Thom Yorke participated in a panel at this year’s Venice Film Festival for his soundtrack for the upcoming Luca Guadagnino-directed horror remake of Suspiria. In an Instatgram clip (below) Yorke had compared his process of composing to “making spells.”

“There’s a way of repeating in music which can hypnotize, and I kept thinking to myself it was a form of making spells. So when I was working in my studio, I was making spells—and that sounds really stupid but that’s how I was thinking about it,” he said. “It was a sort of freedom I’d not had before: I’m not working in the format of a song or arrangement, I’m just exploring. I’m putting things out into my studio and seeing what my studio is bringing back.”